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Old School Real estate blog in the Catskills. Journeys, trial, tribulations, observations and projects of Catskill Farms Founder Chuck Petersheim. Since 2002, Catskill Farms has designed, built, and sold over 250 homes in the Hills, investing over $100m and introducing thousands to the areas we serve. Farms, Barns, Moderns, Cottages and Minis - a design portfolio which has something for everyone.

Saturday, October 22, 2022

Real estate world is changing, New deals recorded.

I drink up a lot of newspapers and magazines and digital information, and lately it's a lot about housing- lots of perspective and lots of opinions. What is true is that the rise of interest rates will no doubt make a big dent in demand, and the higher you go up the price ladder, the bigger that demand drop might be.

Take a $450,000 loan, which would be a $550k purchase with a traditional 20% down and 80% borrowed. At 3%, that is $1900, or 8% that is $3300. And in the upstate real estate environment, those new $500k-$800k purchase benchmarks (that existed very infrequently pre-pandemic), if that price point market gets soft, then a lot of people are in for a lot of trouble.

There are all sorts of warning signals flashing - one I've notice recently are huge price drops in some homes that were priced wrong to begin with (some so wrong I can't help but think the sellers/developers/builder violated the golden rule of respecting your buyers' intelligence), and the big move towards 'open houses'. No one does open houses up here, and the idea that you have to staff and entertain an open house rather than spending your day fielding 8 offers must be a real drag to the realtors that thought this was an easy game, lulled into misperception by the ease of the pandemic fulled upstate sales seen. Welcome to the big leagues, where sailing is not always smooth.

Of course, another way to look at it, is an additional payment of $1400 a month is really not a lot of money for a lot of our buyers, and is not the final detail of a decision. Value is, and if you can articulate it and demonstrate it, then you still have a client base. If you've been swimming without shorts, and the only way you can make money was at pandemic level sales prices and volume, well, good luck to you.

One of the single biggest factors for us heading into this uncertainty is the certainty we have of free cash flow, low debt load, and at least 6 sales lined up for 2023 already. The trick for us will be not get in impatient and start buying other people's distressed assets too soon. I hate to be stingy and not be paying any interest payments to our good friends at Jeff Bank, but hey, business is business. At 7%, at our debt levels last year at this time, we literally would be paying $20k-$30k a month, which gets painful very quickly.

That's been the story of the last 2+ years. One thing after another. Lockdowns, lumber shortages, labor shortages, lumber price jumps, interest rate jumps, - you name it, we've seen it. Keeps life interesting for sure. Would hate to the guy with a lot of real estate debt right now -

Couple of houses we just put into contract -

Upper Big Sky in North Branch, at our Crest project. I believe nearly 10 acres of gigantic pasture and views.

Ranch 55 in Cochecton on 18 acres.

Ranch 56 in Narrowsburg on 10 acres. No pics yet.

To me, and what I know of the marketplace - these are homes and lands that are value-oriented, and unique. The idea we've never lost sight of the fundamentals - privacy, good taste, reasonable pricing, personalization - these are mantras and chants that have served us well. I literally don't think we had one client who regretted buying with us at the last downturn in 2008-2010. Life goes on.

Saturday, October 8, 2022

Ranch 60 Sold

A new Ranch just Sold on Friday. Ranch 60

Neat 2000 sq ft Ranch, with views, woods, pasture, and a little stream. The land up at the Crest in North Branch is like the gift that keeps giving - it's a truly unique piece of land with some out of this world attributes in the view and land experience column. Of course, the 200 acres could really be screwed up with some poor house location planning, since while the openness creates lots of opportunities, it also creates real challenges and risks of one house impacting another negatively.

These 2000 sq ft ranches pack a lot of punch, and feel comfy and cozy and cabiny-like. The Buyers came from Erik Freeland of Countryhouse Realty. The buyers signed up around half way through construction which means they had a good idea of what the house would look and feel like when finished. Lots of our buyers join us when the house isn't started, which takes a fair leap of faith.

Excited about economic turmoil and volatility, hoping it bring some opportunities not yet defined or understood. I'm already starting to feel like the buyers of Catskills real estate are starting to flee to value and safety, and that always benefits us with our long track record of providing real value to our clients.

Saturday, October 1, 2022

The corner turns on the market

While I'm not sure what it means for us as a company, it's clear the upstate market has changed/evolved over the last 90 days. I'm seeing "New Price", "Drastic reduction" and similar verbiage all over the MLS. For us, we aren't seeing it quite yet, with a house a month going into contract, and on the other end a house we have completed selling, and a dozen or so under construction, and at least 3 homes we are building for others on our "Our Homes, Your Land" initiative, we are busy enough in the present day not to worry too much about what the future holds. With little debt, and sales of homes under construction and under contract numbering near a dozen, we are in a good position to keep doing our thing day by day.

But the winds are changing -and with our efficient team and lots of dry financial powder, the real risk of the coming slowdown will be to pounce on an ill-advised 'opportunity'. I know in previous posts I said I'm not seeing any risk of a recession, and on the ground - (measuring it by evaluating labor supply, inflation, and the schedule of our vendors I talk to daily, I'm still not seeing it) - I'm still not seeing any evidence of it, but with the macro actions of the fed doubling interest rates, I'm sure that can't help but slow things down. Which as I might have said, is not necessarily a bad thing - too many people and businesses have been too busy for too long, running their rpms up in the red zone since summer of 2000. Been a great time to make money, with a lot of businesses charging 2x+ times what they would normally charge - so on a micro level you can see the baby steps of inflation - yes, all the costs of production are up, but businesses have been able to charge for that AND add a bunch more onto the bill since there is so much cash swimming around the economy for what ever reason.

I scan a bunch of newspapers and websites each day - and I mean a bunch - and I've noticed over the last year or so a new type of click bait has emerged, typically headlined with something like "10 Trends that are over" and then go on to mention every single thing people did and do like in their homes - shades of grey, salvaged or distressed wood, open shelves, subway tile, etc.. Next I'm sure they will start mentioning 'shade trees', 'peace and quiet' and other nonsense.

Our project at The Crest in North Branch NY continues to move along, with a completed spec home just crossing the finish line. A 2100 sq ft Ranch style with views, a stream and 5 acres.

Selling in the high $600's, this is a good test of the market, since it's a fair price compared to other homes, but still a pretty penny.

Just finished making our traditional winter travel plans, - NYC a week or two prior to Xmas, skiing in Killington over Prez Day weekend, and then a trip to Big Sky for some skiing which is typically 3 days but stretching it to 4 days this year. Still need to figure out the week after Christmas.

Wednesday, September 7, 2022

Rain, The Crest, and Barn 46 Sells

It finally rained.  It hadn’t rained for more than 30 minutes since maybe May.  It’s now been raining since Friday.  A steady rain, just exactly the penetrating, consistent rainfall one hopes for when it has been dry for so long but rarely gets.  Typically it comes too hard too fast for the ground to absorb (I would say 'that's what she said' but my Maturity (with a hard first T) has left such thoughts far in the past).  But not this one - still raining and it’s Wednesday morning.  I literally can see my parched yard turning green and the thirsty bushes growing.  My yard was one large brown sheet of dead blades of grass, turning what is usually vibrantly colored yard into a brownish monotony.

It’s the pace that is sort of amazing.  A slow steady rain that picks up its pace on occasion but never comes with enough velocity to roll right off the ground into the sewer grates.  It’s welcome for sure, and even though it complicates our lives as builders, it is welcome.

The weather system also brought with it cooler temperatures, our first taste of fall.  Ferns go first, then the leave color and start to drop.  Just last week I was noticing colored leaves dropping, and deduced it was the drought not the forthcoming autumn that pulled them from their branches. It would be a wonderful world indeed if the backdrop of climate disaster for future generations, if not ours, wasn’t leaving hard to ignore tells all over the place.  The heat in Cali, god the floods in Pakistan where 1/3 of that poor country is under water.  I’m not sure which hell I would pick - being wet and flooded, or hot and endangered, because they are both unmanageable in a very short amount of time.

Our third home sells today at the Crest - since we purchased that project last year (or was it 2 years ago - Covid confused time) - we’ve had hard to argue success repositioning this project, where the previous owners lost their momentum years ago.  We’ve sold 7 pieces of land, put 10 under contract, and invested about $5,000,000 so far.  An incredible array of diverse families moving in, and a telltale of pandemic affects (or is it ‘effects’ (too early to care)), half are planning to be there full-time.  Should be a great place to live.

This home, a Barn on 5 acres, built on a rock ledge, with a big pond included.  3 floors of living.  4 bedrooms with at least 1 on each floor.  Big views.  Just an extraordinary piece of real estate ass.

Barn 46





Charles Petersheim, Catskill Farms (Catskill Home Builder)
At Farmhouse 35
A Tour of 28 Dawson Lane
Location
Rock & Roll
The Transaction
The Process
Under the Hood
Big Barn
Columbia County Home
Catskill Farms History
New Homes in the Olivebridge Area
Mid Century Ranch Series
Chuck waxes poetic...
Catskill Farms Barn Series
Catskill Farms Cottage Series
Catskill Farms Farmhouse Series
Interviews at the Farm ft. Gary
Interviews at the Farm ft. Amanda
Biceps & Building
Catskill Farms Greatest Hits
Construction Photos
Planned It
Black 'n White
Home Accents at Catskill Farms, Part 2
Home Accents at Catskill Farms, Part 1